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Members Allowances (EffR5)

Core Offer

Portfolio: Efficiency and Resources Portfolio

This core offer includes services that the council is legally obliged to provide. The link below provides detailed information about what is included.

Link: EffR5 - Members Allowances

This proposal will be discussed at the Efficiency and Resources scrutiny committee [PDF document] on 18 March 2016.

Related FAQs

Will Bill Dixon and Ada Burns be subject to a salary review/pay freeze?

Will Bill Dixon and Ada Burns be subject to a salary review/pay freeze?

The Chief Executive’s pay has been frozen for eight years and there has been no increase in councillors’ allowances since 2009. 

Will senior managers take a cut in salary to enable more staff at lower levels to be employed?

Will senior managers take a cut in salary to enable more staff at lower levels to be employed?

Wages of senior staff are reviewed by external consultants to ensure they are set at the correct level to attract suitably experienced and qualified people.  Their salaries are also bench marked against other councils. The numbers of senior managers is always under review, however, senior staff are needed to help with the changes and bring investment into the town.  We will look again at the situation in two years’ time.

  

Your Say

20 comment(s)

This table lists comments from the public about this proposal

Comment

FF 52b (A Remodelled Dolphin Centre including the Central Library)
Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Core LLE12 (Indoor and Outdoor Markets)

For all I don't live in Drlington now I find it terrible that you are slowly killing the town .. All the silly yellow lines around the place making it impossibe for people to sort their businesses .. As for indoor market and Libary its awful that your thinking of getting rid of these . They are part of our history and should be saved rather than got rid of . Really think you as council should be trying to save these pieces of history instead of getting risd and you should be fighting to help the town live instead of killing it. Take a pay cut all of you and give up your expenses and manage on the little money most of us have to . that would save a lot of money I'm sure

Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Core LLE12 (Indoor and Outdoor Markets)
Core EffR19 (Senior Management costs)

Maybe the cuts wouldn't be so harshly criticised if councillor took pay cuts too! Earning more than the prime minister ridiculous!!!! Or if we actually knew how much money was been held in reserves sitting earning interest while the town services fall apart. About time an independent came in and audited where all the money has gone! I can't believe all the rents that have been collected over the years from market stall holders hasn't been put towards repairs. Surely any sensible landlord keeps a percentage aside for this. But no not darlington council! These councillors have probably already been paid off to sell the indoor market and get it turned into a wetherspoons or something! I'm not sure how many of you originate from darlington... But those that do I'm absolutely certain your parents grandparents great grandparents would be absolutely disgusted with the way you have ripped the soul out of our market town over the years, while lining your own pockets with backhanders. Disgraceful I really hope one day you get found out and get the prison sentences you deserve.

Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Cut Mc10 (Christmas lights)

Members should propose a % diversion of their allowances. This in simple terms to be used to cover the proposed cuts to the Christmas lights. This proposal otherwise has been submitted in bad taste.

Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Core EffR19 (Senior Management costs)

Maybe if all you councillors take a pay cut, then you may have more money to spend in Darlington and the town centre. It is no good relying on lottery fund to fund things in the town, cos there is no guarantee it will be awarded to us. Whatever happened to the money that was made from the sale of the arts centre. The council has made so many cuts to this town, there will be nothing left to cut, soon. They have ruined this town by building an eyesore of a car park in a historic town centre. Not to mention the carbuncle next to the town hall. The sooner the councillors are kicked out the better. Let's face it. Whoever gets into power next, cannot do any worse than the current councillors.

Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Core EffR19 (Senior Management costs)

maybe if mr dixon took a pay cut, along with ada burns, that would save 200k!!! the man is a bufoon, do the right thing!!

Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Cut W12 (Grounds Maintenance, Horticulture, Parks and Countryside Management)
Core EffR19 (Senior Management costs)

If you are seriously suggesting you are not going to cut the grass in parks, they will be entirely unusable by anyone at all. Why not just close them all and sell the land off - it's not as if anyone will be able to use them anyway.

You could use the capital receipts to ensure that no cuts are needed in more important areas such as members allowances, chief officers pay etc

Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Cut W12 (Grounds Maintenance, Horticulture, Parks and Countryside Management)
Core EffR19 (Senior Management costs)

I am so pleased I'm moving away from darlington next month. By the time you've finished the place will be a bigger tip than Hartlepool (and it has a few of them).

The people I feel for are the staff you intend to make redundant and the poor people who will have to live in Darlo, a filty, overgrown place with no services whatsoever.

How many other councils have had funding cuts, yet not resorted to this state of affairs? To come to this suggests that the councillors and senior managers have gone very badly wrong somewhere.

As your solution is to just cut everything, here's a few more ideas you could use.

Get rid of all refuse/recycling collections. People will be able to throw their rubbish in the street and you won't be doing anything about it (fining them or cleaning it up) so that should save a good bit of money.

Close all the parks and rent them out as grazing land. If you're not going to cut the grass, no-one will be able to use them anyway and at least this way you can make some money back and the goats or sheep would save on even the one token cut per year.

Maximise income by charging charities and community groups for absolutely everything you can - rates, refuse etc. This way you might even manage to get rid of a few more of them, further reducing services in the borough.

Why bother putting the library in the dolphin centre. Just close them both. If people want books, they can by them off amazon, if they can't afford it then they'll be able to sympathise with darlo council.

When you've made all these cuts, you can reduce the number of councillors as there'll be nothing left for them to run.

When you've made all the staff redundant you can sell the town hall and make a bit there. Surely somewhere you'll have a spare council house that you could convert for Ada and Bill (you could even call it the town hall to make it sound a bit grander), because you'll have no other staff left.

Don't forget to raise the council tax as much as possible each year too. You obviously need the money more that the taxpayers who will soon be getting absolutely nothing in return, not even the young, old or vulnerable when you've finished.

BEST IDEA YET...abolish Darlo council and go back to being part of Durham. They've made major cuts, but they've still got libraries and cut the grass, take care of the vulnerable and less fortunate

Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)

Reduce the number of councillors to reduce costs. DBC has far too many

FF 52b (A Remodelled Dolphin Centre including the Central Library)
Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Core LLE20 (Street Lighting)

To save the £170K to keep the library in Crown Street I suggest you investigate the following options;
1. Reduce the number of Counsellors - we do not need more than one active counsellor in our or other wards.
2. Turn off the street lights at midnight - research has shown that this does not increase crime or road accidents.
3. Remove free parking from all counsel employees.

FF 52b (A Remodelled Dolphin Centre including the Central Library)
Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)

Please don't vandalise Darlington's heritage and deprive our children and future generations of this link to a more generous and aspirational past. Crown Street Library is such an imposing building and for a child it must be like entering a brick castle, very exciting and a little bit scary, perfect for exploring the world of books. The Dolphin Centre is for splashing about in, not inspiring the imagination.
Cutting Councillor Allowances would be a popular cut; Councillors in the 1950's and 60's were lucky to get their bus fare to the meetings after a day's hard graft.

FF 52b (A Remodelled Dolphin Centre including the Central Library)
FF 52k (Financial and debt advice and welfare rights services)
Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Cut W03 (Library Service Mobile Library)

I find it incredible that proposals to close libraries and withdraw support from citizens advice bureau whilst councillors continue to take £645000 from council taxes to pay their
Allowances.It is time that they stand up and be counted by waiving all or part of their allowances or resign to allow people who will act in a more responsible way. Could
sponsors be found to keep the mobile library going eg for the fuel repairs etc.

FF 52b (A Remodelled Dolphin Centre including the Central Library)
Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Core LLE13 (Refuse and Recycling Collection and Waste Disposal)
Cut W13 (Street Cleaning and Environmental Crime)

1 Retain Crown St library. Use the space earmarked within the Dolphin Centre to provide office accommodation for DAD and CAB etc. This would reduce their running costs and allow for the renting out of their original offices. 2 Reduce the costs and red tape of refuse disposal in order to help reduce the higher costs of cleaning up fly tipping and subsequent legal action. 3 Increase the area of responsibility of each councilor and thereby reducing the cost of councilors.

Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Core LLE12 (Indoor and Outdoor Markets)
Cut H03 (Unison Contribution)
Core EffR19 (Senior Management costs)

Letter about the current services, Crown Street Library, Covered Market, senior management and other options.

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Core HP3 (Public Health Substance Misuse )
Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Core EffR19 (Senior Management costs)

The people whom I understand this support is being removed from are probably more worthy of the money being given to support them than those who run our local council, who are being paid at least four times what they need to be paid for the roles they are carrying out. If the people who run our council were just paid what they need to be paid, which is no more than £50,000.00 per person gross per annum, then this service could be maintained, along with the other services that are being cut. Keep the series and cut out the greed. I also think that if all of the cushy allowances that those who run our council were stopped, then none of these services would need to be cut, either. If the people who run our council want to continue to be paid at their current rate, may I suggest that they go into the private sector, as nobody who works in the public sector needs to be paid what those incompetent socialist dimwits are being paid.

FF 52b (A Remodelled Dolphin Centre including the Central Library)
Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)

Completely against the library closure, because I don't think that it is the councils right to do so. I don't believe that enough has been done to explore other options and uses of the facilities. I use the library and I don't believe a dumbed down version will work correctly. I don't believe we need 50 councillors in the borough of Darlington we need to run the council I modern way. More thought needs to go into keeping this library open for the people it was donated for, people need a proper library facility for which they can better themselves. Bill you should do the right thing and reserve your decision.

FF 52b (A Remodelled Dolphin Centre including the Central Library)
Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Cut W05 (Cockerton Library)

A letter about the suggested proposals, including Crown Street library and Cockerton Library

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Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)

This is a transcription of a comment made during the public meetings held during the budget consultation:

Q: When an organisation is in trouble, the cabinet itself should set an example by taking a voluntary salary sacrifice
A: (Cllr Dixon) Nobody at this table, indeed no member of the council, has had an increase in their allowances since 2009.

Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)

This is a transcription of a comment made during the public meetings held during the budget consultation:

Q: We have a population of just 107,000. Why do we need 50+ councillors?
A (Cllr Dixon): There was a boundary review around 18 months ago, by an independent body. The decision was to reduce the number of councillors from 53 to 50. That was the decision of the independent body.

Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Core EffR19 (Senior Management costs)

This is a transcription of comments made during the public meetings held during the budget consultation:

Q: Senior management savings of £300k seems strange that is a similar figure as the saving to be made by moving the library.
Q: What salary increase are all staff getting this year? Are the senior managers getting an increase? Is there a proposal for councillors to get an increase in their allowances? Perhaps they could sacrifice that.

A (Cllr Harker): When recruiting people to certain positions, we pay what the going rate is. If we do not pay what the going rate is, we either don’t get someone in that role, or we find someone who is not capable of doing it. I’d far rather pay people in senior management roles less, but the reality is that’s what we’ll pay because that’s what local authorities have to pay. As the organisation shrinks in terms of the number of employees it has, we will reduce, as we have been doing, the number of managers. So they overall cost of management will reduce. In terms of staff salaries, staff at different levels of the organisation have not had inflation pay increases over a number of years. Staff have made sacrifices in terms of salaries. All staff, from 2011/12 have had no pay increase. Many staff have seen their salaries decreased in real terms.

Cut C05 (Cease Vulnerable Adults Floating Support)
Core EffR5 (Members Allowances)
Cut S14 (Strategic Grant Budget)

Responses to Equalities Impact Assesments

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